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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 5:14 pm  

Ahh, its never been tested, from Mike anyway

i remember on TFI friday that Chris Evans had a plaster head on his desk and got a boxing glove on the end of a piston to simulate Mikes power, it smashed the head but how they figured out where these calculations came from god only knows

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:15 pm  

pete321 wrote:
This question was asked during the Steve Lott question period. He said they never bothered with this stuff in Mike's prime.

Here is something i found online from before the tyson/lewis fight.
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"Close examination of Tyson?s punches has shown that just one punch has the potential to knock out and hospitalize the average man. In fact the force of Tyson?s knock out punch has an 85% chance of giving his opponent severe brain damage and is easily great enough to fracture any bone in the average human skull. In his research Dr Pain compares this to the average man, who has a 2% chance of inflicting this kind of injury - no wonder people fear the force of Iron Mike?s fist.

To put this into context, Tyson?s punch impact and the momentum of it, which is nearly four times that of an average man, is the equivalent of hitting a car windscreen at 50mph or of getting smacked by a 16lb wooden sledgehammer moving at 35mph . Could this be the reason why 68% of the population believes that they would only last one minute in the ring with Tyson?

Research shows that force needed to break forehead bones is 4990N (Newtons). The highest realistic value predictable for Tyson?s punch is 7000N"

Dr. Matthew Pain, Lecturer, Sports Biomechanics, Loughborough University


what does mean by the highest realistic value predictable for tysons punch is 7000 Newtons. Whats that in pounds per square inch.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:20 pm  

It was never actualy measured just guestimates

whos to say you dont hit harder than Mike

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:26 pm  

ross wrote:
It was never actualy measured just guestimates

whos to say you dont hit harder than Mike


Or dance better than him. Laughing
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:31 pm  

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,3-2002241654,00.html here's another article about the same professors tests or whatever (towards bottom)

I definetely believe it now, the scientist wouldn't put his credibility out like that by making outrageous claims.

In reality, I bet the average pro boxer punches 3x that of an average man and people like foreman can do 4x just like mike could.

http://www.convertit.com/board/view.asp?mode=viewtopic&topicID=195&forumID=1&catID=9

also it doesn't look like you can do that newtons to psi thing? but like, i'm far from a physics guy so this stuff is way over my head, maybe you can figure something out.

http://www.calfinewire.com/comfact.htm
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:37 pm  

i know I can drive a car better than him lol
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:40 pm  

pete321 wrote:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,3-2002241654,00.html here's another article about the same professors tests or whatever (towards bottom)

I definetely believe it now, the scientist wouldn't put his credibility out like that by making outrageous claims.


You are being sarcastic right ?

Dr Pain ? The Sun ?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:47 pm  

I can't say I'm being sarcastic. The guy is a real scientist and professor at a real university in the UK. If he did research on Mike's punching power and it was published in news papers etc with his name all over it there is nothing there to make me believe he's full of crap.

It's not like this thing would be published in the New England journal of medicine or something. It seems official.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:56 pm  

Its not official, all the sun has done is copy it from that games saite or vice versa

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:02 pm  

pete321 wrote:
I can't say I'm being sarcastic. The guy is a real scientist and professor at a real university in the UK. If he did research on Mike's punching power and it was published in news papers etc with his name all over it there is nothing there to make me believe he's full of crap.

It's not like this thing would be published in the New England journal of medicine or something. It seems official.


did this guy actually measure tysons punching power or is it just guess estimates?.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:39 pm  

I don't know if he actually hooked up with tyson

here is the games interview. I think it says they used motion technology or whatever to make the faces of the game, so maybe mike did actually come in and meet with some people

http://ps2.gamezone.com/news/05_20_02_08_21PM.htm
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 10:48 am  

pete321 wrote:
I don't know if he actually hooked up with tyson

here is the games interview. I think it says they used motion technology or whatever to make the faces of the game, so maybe mike did actually come in and meet with some people

http://ps2.gamezone.com/news/05_20_02_08_21PM.htm


how can he claim to know how hard tyson hit if he didnt test his punching power. you cant assume tyson hit so hard . his punch has to be tested.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:57 pm  

Few of you know anything about human physiology, let alone the amount of force produced in a stressful or otherwise thirlling atmosphere.

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f53/force-boxers-punch-measured-543899/
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Scientists at Swansea University have discovered the instantaneous force of a champion boxer's punch equates to 3.5 tonnes.
Art motion capture equipment was used to detect that WBO world cruiserweight champion Enzo Maccarinelli was twice as powerful than the average person.
The 26-year-old is reputed to have one of the hardest punches in the sport and his 24 wins have included 18 knockouts.
The study is due to feature on BBC One's Blue Peter, 1700 BST on 5 April.
Dr Iwan Griffiths, a lecturer in sports science in the university's School of Human Sciences, measured the Swansea-born boxer's against a standard punchbag.
He used the motion capture technology to track each punch and to measure how quickly the punchbag moved on being hit. [/quote]

"The average heavyweight boxer punches with 600 PSI with just average Joe half that.ChaCha on!"

By these two easily-accessible sources from google, one can draw that ONE, an average person punches with 300 pounds of instantaneous force (not PSI - example: a semi tractor trailer as opposed to a water-cutter)

300 lbs = 136 kilograms
1000 kilograms = 1 tonne

By this calculation, the average boxing chamption can easily produce 3500 kilograms of instant force, which equates to 7716 lbs of instant force. Instant force isn't follow-through force. This means that the actual force connected and transfered through the opponent's body is roughly 1/4 of the total instant force because of counter-momentum.

So, about 1900 lbs of instant force, or 875 kilograms per average punch, which varies approximately 50% due to the circumstances of the match, such as adrenaline, stress, psychological state, damage sustained, etc.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:54 am  

i was tested some years ago at the the ivan drago institute of higher punching power and i was at 2150 pounds of pressure, easily. i was told whatever i hit, i destroy
 
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