of who have defeated, Mike Tyson has never gone, back to redeem himself. This is no, secert, ever since Mike Tyson came out of Jail he wanted to fight figthers who he thought he could beat and scare, and don't feed me that bul**** with EVander Holyfeild, Team tyson only took that fight because they thought Holyfeild was finished.
It is true that Mike Tyson has never showed Danny Williams, respect for beating him, also the MiKE Tyson fans do not give him the respect.
they are bitter, it is only me who gave him the respect, and did'nt underestimate him.
I would love to see this fight again, but i think it is danger for MiKE TYSON, he needs to win his nexted fight that is no lie.
But maybe this what Mike Tyson needs, someone to *Censor* him off, becuase Mike Tyson is a machine that fuels, and runs, and anger, fustration.
I like Danny Williams for saying this, and i think he means it.
Even though Danny Williams was beatan in his last fight he is on a high, he knocked out MiKE TYSON, plus lasted eight brutal rounds with Vitalia.
hE SHOULD BE PROUD OF THAT.
even though i thought he miss caluated his, training he was too heavy.
But the fact of the matter is, is that people want to fight Tyson.
Its up to the biggest hype in boxing, to fight them.
If Mike Tyson fights, a ture journey man in his comeback fight, this will not impress me. Because he is not proving anything, to me, or anyone esle.
Just the Tyson fans, who big up everything he does.
He needs to step up to a challange confront them, and sprint through them like a sprinter.
I know it is not easy, but if he is serious, trains, he will be in a better position to fight.
forget about the past Tyson fans out there!
I want to know what Tyson can do now!
face the challange!
i respect Danny Williams, no journey man, wins a fight where he fights for two rounds with a dislocated shoulder. I KO!
FORMER BRITISH AND EUROPEAN CHAMPION
he is not had the achievements of the old, Mike Tyson but not many have.
people need to show resepct, it takes alot to step in tHE ring.
thank you
i know the kind of response, i will get on this site. I will just ignore tHE bitter replies, but i will read the people who are being honest and real to themselfs.
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Danny Wiliams is doing Mike Tyson a favour, even though he wants to beat him. This is a man who grew up watching MiKE TYSON who admired him. He even said, if i was figthing the tYSON FroM 1988, I WOULD NOT EVEN STEP IN THE RING.
This fight has to happen.
Am already hyped.
I respect both figthers i like Danny Williams he is real person, and good boxer, and i would like Tyson to win, because i understand how important it will be for him to finish the most, contraversual, unpredictable, exsplosive, powerfull career of alltime.
well one of them, plus it will be the greatest boxing comeback since sugar ray robinson.
A lot of what Danny says is true but most of it is rubbish. Douglas decided to run after he got the title and didnt honor Mike with an immediate rematch. Disrespectfully, Buster grew fat and complacent and was KO'd like a chump in his first defense. Buster never worked himself back to the top of the division like Tyson did. So, no rematch needed. Against Evander, Mike took the rematch, but was DQ'd in the 3rd round. Funny but Tyson was doing serious damage to Evander in the 3rd, biting or not biting. Tyson lost his cool and bit Evander, and was DQ'd. Tyson was on the very tail-end of his career against a close to-is-peak Lewis. Mike was also on the verge of retirement, with a personal life that was completely crumbling, along with bankrupcy around the corner. Tyson did not have the mental energy to rematch Lewis, then.
Furthermore, Tyson rematched dangerous punchers, Ruddock, and Bruno, who both noticeably stunned Mike. Let me add that these fights were not perceived to be easy walk-overs for Tyson, yet he was man enough to fight them twice. So, that is Holyfield twice, Ruddock twice, Bruno twice. Tyson has had surgery on knee, and since then, Klitscho easily pummeled Williams. Hence, proving what Tyson's camp already knew.
That being said, I think both fighters should take a tune-up fight and then have the rematch. As long as both Tyson and Williams, win their tune-up of course. I think if Tyson wins, it will help his legacy, and his future credibility. A charged up Tyson should not have any problems with Williams. However, Tyson defintely needs to take a tune-up fight to get his rust off.
One more thing. Williams has a rematch victory over the "great" Julius Francis. That aint saying much.
ok i haven't said much lately, but this really *Censor* me off...
Danny Williams did not write that letter. Reason being, he's not that concerned with getting tysons respect. Who cares what who thinks in boxing... As a fighter, your actions speak louder than words. Danny Williams thinks he's at the top of his plateau because he managed to defeat a hurt Tyson.
I strongly believe that letter was made up by someone trying to back up that *Censor* we call danny williams
let me once again mention something that all of us boxing fans saw
we saw mike tyson ravage that little *Censor* danny williams in the first two rounds... EVERYONE KNOWS THIS
Do you guys remember danny boy getting ROCKED IN THE FACE, STUMBLING around the ring, and GRABBING tyson for dear life?????
I know my fellow Tyson fans saw that
I dont care who the f*** danny williams thinks he is... watch the video again of him standing in his corner right before the first round bell rings...
Look in his large, beady eyes.... Hes scared.. and you all know it
in the rematch.... Tyson is gonna kill williams... Tyson knows that no matter what williams says, HE'S STILL SCARED
I need confirmation that Danny wrote this letter
If he did, cool, a rematch would be awesome, so we can see for once and for all if Tyson's knee did affect his performance! i have watched the fight a million times and i personally definately think he did hurt his knee which in turn affected Mike's performance.
But like what has been said earlier you have to give respect to Williams cos he took some dirty shots from tyson and was still there.
Id expect Tyson to avenge his defeat if a rematch came about, but id like to see Mike have at least two or three warm up fights. I know peeps may say "these warm up fights are useless", but a confident and slightly less rusty Tyson is A lot more dangerous than an inactive ,possibly unconfident Tyson..(obviously), but u know what i mean.
Who do you think you are Kool,Mike Tyson dosent have anything to prove to you,he acheived more than almost every other haevyweight in history by wiping out a division nearly twenty years ago and beat three seperate champs to unify,he never had to fight for a vacant title like Lewis.And if it wasnt for a *Censor* training team and not a bunch of yes men happy to let Mike do as he pleased he would have repeated it after his incarcaration.What Mike does now is for his bank balance and his own satisfaction.And dont be a child and post a reply arguing,what ive said is the truth.
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I think i am who ever i want to be, listen, people are so quick to critcise other figthers and call them *Censor*. But when it comes to Mike tyson, you wnat to cover up the problems, and the *Censor* about.
I am right when i say Tyson has to be serious.
If he beats a journey man, because thats what i think he means by a easy fight. That won't prove anything to me, and it should not prove anything to anyone esle.
Yes i know he has proved alot in the past, but the time is now. Do you wnat to see Tyson go out on a a high.
I do, so thats why i want him to become serious.
Have you got a problem with what am saying, good! because it is right.
Lennox Lewis has got nothing to do with Tyson, he defeated him and thats that. Lennox Lewis went out on the top, and there is nothing you can do about that.
Well i want to see Tyson do the same thing, but he has to take some notes off the great champs, like Mu Hammad Ali, Evander Holyfeild, and be professional.
Because am not buying this tatoo *Censor*, befor a fight and disappearing *Censor*.
Have you got a problem with that!
Mike Tyson is a great figther, but champion. A test to a true champion is how they come back from defeat, and Mike Tyson has never done that. He has never won, his title back after a defeat to that oppenet.
He is one of the greatest of alltime, that will always be, he is a icon, legend.
But now is the time, where he has to take the heavyweight divsisoon by the scrap of teh neck, and do his stuff.
It will be the greatest comeback since, Sugar Ray Robinson.
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Anyone who has got a problem with my comments, go ahead. But i am just being real, and letting my opinion be know.
thank you.
there is no reason why this fight should'nt happen, it is right, if it dose'nt happen, it is the Tyson camp who are stopping this.
Becuaes Danny Williams is a real fighter and a real person. You can be bitter and call him a pusy, but he has beat mike tyson, would'nt you feel great if you did that. He fought fo rteh heavyweight title, he has had a god career.
none of the people here can, say that.
sho show alittle respect, i think Tyson can beat Williams, so thats why i think it shoudl happen.
Mike doesn't need Williams he was smashing him before he hurt his knee Williams needs this fight to resurect his career, Mike needs to keep training and work his way up to Klitscho and become a three time champion I firmly believe he can beat Klitscho he can worry about Williams when he is champion again only Lewis would trouble an in shape Mike Tyson and he has retired the rest just aren't in his class.
Have you got a problem with what am saying, good! because it is right.
Have you got a problem with that!
Yo Kool,..wazzup?
You don't have to be that agressive dizzing other Tyson fans. A lot of people (including me) actually agree with most of the things you say (becoming more serious etc). So you don't have to pretend that you're alone and that no one will agree with you, cause that's not true.
Of all points you mentioned i agree with you (The heavyweight division is open right now! Now is the time...the time to be serious and get those belts again. Cleaning up all those fake $*@#$. All big Tyson fans will agree with you) except on two points:
KOOL wrote:
Mike Tyson is a great figther, but champion. A test to a true champion is how they come back from defeat, and Mike Tyson has never done that. He has never won, his title back after a defeat to that oppenet.
Tyson cal deal with adversary better than you described here.
We're talking about a man who lost everyone in his surrounding he loved (his parents,...his guardian/mentor/trainer) at a VERY young age. He grew up in a *Censor* where crime was the only way to survive and was left with no one...yet he still managed to become the youngest heavyweight champion ever in a very impressive style. That's not easy.
Then he lost everything in his personal life again, he lost his belts and was sent to jail (unjustified in my opinion and many others. Think about how much being in jail unjustified *Censor* you up). After three years of *Censor* and inactivity without touching a single glove he came back taking one tune-up fight. Then one fight against a contender and then won against two of the three beltholders (lost to the third). Who can say he won the championship and unified two belts after coming of straight from jail?? Only great ones who can handle problems can say that.
He did all that and people still think Tyson can't deal with adversary? He's been doing that his whole life (and pretty succesfully too). Anybody else wouldn't have survived one year in Tysons shoes. Saying that Tyson can't deal with "downs/defeats" is simply not true.
The other point is the fact that Williams is angry being labeled a journeyman.
Excuse me Williams,...but what is the definition of a journeyman?
The major boxing fans never heard of him before the Tyson fight and Williams wasn't even ranked in the LOW-contender zone.
We are talking about a guy who managed to become British champion,...then tried to step up one time for the European championship and fell flat down being exposed. The fight against Sinan Samil San was pathetic againt a pathetic fighter (i've seen the fight and anyone who saw it too will know it too). Sinan Samil San is not even a low contender. And Williams was knocked out after being out-boxed. Then he gets a title-shot after beating an injured Tyson (which i do gove him full credit for. Beating a one-legged Tyson still isn't easy as Tyson gave everything he could) and gets defeated without even laying one punch on the champion.
I don't know if/when Tyson called Williams a journeyman,..but seen from the unbiased facts...Williams is just that. A journeyman who wants another payday and has to write a letter like that to get attention. If Williams isn't a journeyman than i don't know who is.
And that letter really is low. Tyson never made any excuse. Never did that after any of his defeats (complimenting Douglas and Lewis for fighting good).
Did i just read in that letter from williams saying he " bested tyson in the four rounds" ummm thats a bunch of bull maybe he bested tyson IN round 4. Tyson clearly dominated every round until the 4th round and everyone knows tyson was winning every round. Williams even had 2 points taken off for a late punch and a low punch. The only thing williams was doing in that fight was taking brutally hard punches from tyson and clinching and hanging on to tyson every chance he got. He would have been knocked down at least 2 times if he wasnt holding on for dear life.. I hope tyson messes him up on his comeback
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