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**Donate Points** · World Champion Joined: Oct 07, 2008 Posts: 409

If Roy Jones Junior pulls off a minor miracle and beats Calzage will that put him in the pound for pound list again and were on the list?

**Donate Points** · World Champion Joined: Jun 27, 2008 Posts: 604

in all honestly i don't need to read a rigged magazine but if he beats calzaghe he should go streight to number 1. i have said before these days there are no p 4 p fighters mosley at lightweight & jones jr were the last in my book i didn't even bother putting mayweather on the list because p4p fighters must ko people out in devastating fashion mayweather is good but he wasn't born with that magnetic ko attraction. if roy beats joe there will be a rematch in england the last fight of his career will be against hopkins where he will embarass him again this time with both hands ,last time he used 1 hand the other was injured. -- oh jim this is 4 u

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**Donate Points** · World Champion Joined: Oct 07, 2008 Posts: 409

LOL did he say he would like to fight Hopkins again

**Donate Points** · World Champion Joined: Jun 27, 2008 Posts: 604

hopkins allways brings it up,he's been doing it for years & they both fought on the same card which after was a live interview when jones offered hopkins 60 / 40 so jones would take 60 but hopkins wanted 50 /50 so the fight never happened .i can see jones point & he's beaten him before so why should he take 50 /50 he doesn't need him he has his win. in boxing history any great fighter would have even taken 30 of 70 just to avenge their loss so thats when i realized this guy is actually fooling the public & i cannot wait till he retires or gets ko'd . i really really hate this guy of all the fighters. from the getto he just claims he is with all his little documentaries. in a street fight mayorga or vargas would rape him see the difference when all these fighters turn pro highlights make hopkins look like a brawler & people assume he's a pitbull . as jones said in that interview who's he fought to get 50 / 50 just 1 fighter trinidad a welterweight.

**Donate Points** · World Champion Joined: May 06, 2008 Posts: 587

spartan3k wrote:

hopkins allways brings it up,he's been doing it for years & they both fought on the same card which after was a live interview when jones offered hopkins 60 / 40 so jones would take 60 but hopkins wanted 50 /50 so the fight never happened .i can see jones point & he's beaten him before so why should he take 50 /50 he doesn't need him he has his win. in boxing history any great fighter would have even taken 30 of 70 just to avenge their loss so thats when i realized this guy is actually fooling the public & i cannot wait till he retires or gets ko'd . i really really hate this guy of all the fighters. from the getto he just claims he is with all his little documentaries. in a street fight mayorga or vargas would rape him see the difference when all these fighters turn pro highlights make hopkins look like a brawler & people assume he's a pitbull . as jones said in that interview who's he fought to get 50 / 50 just 1 fighter trinidad a welterweight.

yo why why should hopkins take 40 he should get 60 hes the best hes has been doing it longer and been around for ever and if jones and hopkins fought my money goes to hopkins

**Donate Points** · World Champion Joined: Jun 27, 2008 Posts: 604

jim at the time jones was technically undefeated & hopkins had recently beaten 1 fighter trinidad & remember jim jones allready took hopkins to preschool because he only used 1 hand so he didn't need to prove anything i think hopkins was scared because this time roy would use 2 hands & take him to college Mr. Green

**Donate Points** · World Champion Joined: Oct 07, 2008 Posts: 409

[/quote]why should hopkins take 40 he should get 60 hes the best hes has been doing it longer and been around for ever and if jones and hopkins fought my money goes to hopkins[/quote]
Hopkins has not been doning it longer jones.Jones was around well before Hopkins and Hopkins should take less because he lost the first time to jones so jones holds the status quo

**Donate Points** · World Champion Joined: May 06, 2008 Posts: 587

mrodub wrote:

why should hopkins take 40 he should get 60 hes the best hes has been doing it longer and been around for ever and if jones and hopkins fought my money goes to hopkins[/quote]
Hopkins has not been doning it longer jones.Jones was around well before Hopkins and Hopkins should take less because he lost the first time to jones so jones holds the status quo[/quote]hopkins could kik jones's ass *Censor* i would if he let me fight him...

**Donate Points** · World Champion Joined: Oct 07, 2008 Posts: 409

Quite possible jim but the question you asked was why should hopkins get less well the answer is he lost the first time so he is the one who has somthing to prove so he should take less money if i lost to someone who i thought i could beat i would fight for free to avenge the loss

**Donate Points** · World Champion Joined: May 06, 2008 Posts: 587

mrodub wrote:

Quite possible jim but the question you asked was why should hopkins get less well the answer is he lost the first time so he is the one who has somthing to prove so he should take less money if i lost to someone who i thought i could beat i would fight for free to avenge the loss

hopkins doesnt have to prov himself he said after hes last fight that he feels like every onewants him to keep proving himself he has and hes the best out thear

**Donate Points** · World Champion Joined: Oct 07, 2008 Posts: 409

He has not proved he can beat roy jones but roy jones proved he could be hopkins even with a bad hand so to me thats not the best also if he is the best how come he lost to calzage.
Jim he is a great fighter but you over rate him and instead of looking at it neutral and using reason to judge him you just keep saying he is the best without saying what makes him the best

**Donate Points** · World Champion Joined: May 06, 2008 Posts: 587

its calld being sick and if you want prof hears some prof hes 43 1\2 years old kikt pavliks ass he kod de la hoya hes fast hes fought the best and beat the best also was the 1 to beat winky wright so thears your prof i doent want to hear any more he has.nt profin himself from any of you oo and he paid for that boys death remember i linkt it to a forum

**Donate Points** · World Champion Joined: Jun 27, 2008 Posts: 604

jim look at hopkins list of fighters .its pathetic & its not his fault but in middleweight in the last 10 years suks i have the ring boxing almanac 2003 for hopkins best wins it has 1. ko 4 joe lipsey 2. ko 10 antwun echols 3. ko 12 felix trinidad now u see what i mean about statistics & title defenses, roy jones says 1.w12 hopkins 2. w12 toney 3. ko 1 montel griffin. hopkins would never get in the ring with those opponents he would use money as an excuse just like he did against jones. spartan out

**Donate Points** · World Champion Joined: Oct 07, 2008 Posts: 409

Jim my point is simple he lost to calzage so he is not the best calzage is simple

**Donate Points** · World Champion Joined: May 06, 2008 Posts: 587

mrodub wrote:

Jim my point is simple he lost to calzage so he is not the best calzage is simple

he WAS SICK give the guy a brack how would you feel if every time you won a fight some one wantid better or prove yor self over and over again and any remach hopkins would destroy him