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| Fan Talk: Foreman Did It, Tyson Can Too |
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 IRONMIKEFAN writes "Foreman Did It, Tyson Can Too
by Stephen G. Terzian
01/15/05 - There is no reason why Mike Tyson cannot modify his style and really make it work well. Tyson has an excellent jab, but doesn't know it. He gets great extension on it for a short man with a short reach, and has been known to double and even triple jab with great effectiveness. When Mike jabs his way in his body is at a perfect angle vis a vis his opponent so that Tyson has the option of either ripping a left hook or left uppercut underneath, or throwing the straight right. He is also in a very good defensive position when jabbing.
George Foreman blew away his opponents with wrecking ball shots, and to tell you the truth I never saw him throw a jab from 1970 until 1974, when he threw a few pawing jabs at Ali's rope-a-dope nonsense. I then saw Foreman begin to use the jab more, with excellent effect, especially against Ron Lyle, and in the rematch with Joe Frazier. But it wasn't until 1986 that Foreman re-engineered himself from a sheer power punching monster to a boxer/puncher. And we all know what great success he had with this new style from 1987 and beyond: he practically knocked people out with that jab!
Mike Tyson--much slower now, much less head movement now, and certainly not needing to take too many more punches to the head, especially after the Holyfield and Lewis fights--needs to re-invent himself a bit. Don't tell me what an old dog can or cannot do: George Foreman had an even more successful career going from a pure slugger to a boxer/puncher, by learning to pace himself, by really developing a damaging jab, and by fighting smarter. Mike Tyson is the same age as Foreman was more or less when he began his second career in '86. He is also not 400+ pounds as Foreman weighed when he started training again.
Tyson's knockout power will always be there, and ultimately win the fight for him, but he just needs to learn to set those power shots up more wisely now, since he is past the point now of using his sheer youthful speed to dart inside and unleash them like he used to. Some trainer (or maybe I'll write to Tyson myself!) has to do a George Foreman-styled re-engineering number on Mike Tyson, and I believe he will be successful for a few more years to come, even winning a title along the way.
- RABBITPUNCHBOXING.COM
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Posted by tysonian on Saturday, January 15, 2005 @ 20:18:36 MST (690 reads)(Read More... | Score: 4) |
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| Fan Talk: Why do we still crave Mike Tyson? |
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IRONMIKEFAN writes "Why do we still crave Mike Tyson?
27.12.04 - By Matt Phillips: Love him or loath him, Mike Tyson is a legend. Not everybody is qualified enough to have an opinion on him but yet they do. Even in certain countries in Eastern Europe and Asia where God, Jesus and the rest of the Bible have never been heard of Mike Tyson could cause an argument on who is the greatest heavyweight on the planet this. That's even more amazing when you think that Tyson hasn’t even held a world title for almost a decade. So why do we all still believe that he is arguable the best. To say that he is bigger than God would not be an exaggeration. So is it any surprise to find out that he has a army of loyal fans waiting to see him lift the Heavyweight World title again?
Being a member of this army, I find myself being bombarded with questions: Will he ever get to the top again? Has he lost the plot? Why is he so self-destructive? And basically, what is his problem? The list of questions we, the loyal troops have is endless and our mission is to find the answer. Our only worry is that one-day we’ll wake up one morning and hear of his premature death, which would be, without a doubt, self infected and we would never know the truth.
Mike’s life reads like a book with every chapter being numbered and titled and keeping you on the edge of your seat. From his days as a street punk growing up or being dragged up in Brownsville, Brooklyn all the way through to a defeat by an embarrassingly bad boxer called Danny Williams from London, England.
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Posted by tysonian on Friday, December 31, 2004 @ 06:45:58 MST (1320 reads)(Read More... | 3821 bytes more | Score: 4.33) |
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| Fan Talk: Reality vs. Myth: Tyson vs. Lewis |
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I recently read an excellent column by John "Johnny Detroit" Lepak at RingsideReport.com that i wanted to share with you.
By John "Johnny Detroit" Lepak - December 21, 2004
It's been 2 ½ years since Lennox Lewis defeated Mike
Tyson in the ring. Is boxing now bigger and better than ever with Tyson
pretty much gone? I'm not here to bash Lewis, he was a good champion.
Let's take a look at the two fighters side-by-side and compare careers.
I have grown tired of people in the media saying how Tyson never fought
anyone and his career was a myth. In a III part series RSR will take a
closer look at the how the two fighters developed year by year and how
they would have done against one another in the ring as well as in the
box-office.
More quotes and pictures available in the extended section of this post (click 'Read More' below).
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Posted by tysonian on Monday, December 27, 2004 @ 16:54:18 MST (5597 reads)(Read More... | 37572 bytes more | Score: 4.4) |
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| Fan Talk: Let's go back in time |
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Anonymous writes "Mike
Let's go back in time for a minute. Cus d'Amato knew something about you that no one else did. He knew there were certain factors that made up your potential, like your aggression, speed, power and agility. He also knew you were NEVER going to be a technically sound BOXER, you were going to be a BRAWLER. So what did he do, that for some reason no other trainer has thought of, to date? He trained you to DEFEND against the jab. Mike, he trained you to defend against technically sound boxers. Think about it, the 5 boxers who have beaten you are sound jabbers, with longer reaches/height.
When you play back your late 80's early 90's fights, you see yourself in every single fight dodging from side-to-side, the entire fight whether the fighter threw a punch or not. In the last 13 years that style of defense has been non-existent with you. Mike you will always have that ferocious/explosive punching power, but you need to defend against your flaws. Lennox would have dropped like a sack of potatoes had he not been a sound jabber at 6'5 and have a longer reach. Your only 38, an out of shape flabby George Foreman won the championship at 45. From one athlete to another let me ask you this, after all you have went through, what do you want to be remembered as? A bully who was eventually beaten? or, A warrior who in the end, persevered?
I can't ever look my children in the face and tell them to go accomplish something I didn't have the balls to accomplish myself. Your true challenge and stature is here, before you.
Set aside your management, trainer, legal issues and outside shit. Millions of people who have supported you, your TRUE fans, your family members and most importantly your IMMORTALITY await you. Can you be champion again (?), should not be the question. The question should be can anyone stop you if you are 100% healthy and hungry? The answer, "HELL-*****ING-NO".
Take the belts back!!
Swoosh
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Posted by viper on Tuesday, September 28, 2004 @ 11:42:38 MDT (713 reads)(Read More... | Score: 3) |
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| blaq101 writes "The reality at times, though hard to accept, is that fighters fade. Whether due to father time, life style or so on, there comes a time when things just don't happen like they used to. I have been a Tyson fan since I was very young. It has been over twenty years or so. Any time Mike fights, even Lennox Lewis, I said Mike was going to prevail. It just comes down to reality, inactivity, bad management, a horrible corner, and a lack of desire from Mke himself. Life issues, external scenarios, the day to day shit can whittle away at your motivation, mental & confidence. That is the reason Mike Tyson is having troubles. Will we ever see a reincarnated Mike Tyson, hopefully so, but probably not. We can only hope his intentions are true. And not for the sake of his followers, but for his own sake. I firmly believe that Mike Tyson could win a championship belt one more time. He needs to work extremely on his conditioning, though I do feel the injury vs. Williams was the culprit in that fight. But he needs to fully focus on a steady diet of confidence builders vs. mid-level opposition (4-5) in the next 9 months, maybe a Michael Grant. Step up on the top 10, twice, and revenge Danny "luckiest man in the world" Williams. Then get a couple big money fights against Roy Jones, Tarver, Brewster, Vladamir Klitchsko, or Toney. All of course involving a realistic, strong game plan, involving Mr. Tyson's full cooperation and focus. I believe he could do it. But as he stated in the interview, he doesn't have the instinct. That is a enormous problem, if he himself says that he no longer has the "insinct." Every fan in the history of the fight game has had to deal with letting go. I was talking to my dad, and he said that he used to love Larry Holmes, had a lot of respect for the "Easton Assasin." But he had to keep watching as he went to far, still plugging a way and losing to sub-par opposition. Think of Ali fans, watching the "Greatest of all Time" get beat by Holmes and Leon Spinks. It hurts, its upsetting. But this is history. Hopefully Mike can pull it out, maybe make money in other places not fighting, I believe he could. Always remember, if a fighter was remembered for his later years, there wouldn't be a lot of greats. Always a M.T. fan"
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